The capabilities that you get between normal drive. Volkswagen made the dualclutch transmission an option on the gti and golf r. Comparing the mazda 3 to the vw golf, two small hatchbacks with manual transmissions that compete at the affordable end of the newcar spectrum. The mk7 golf comes with a 6speed automatic instead of a dsg. David zalstein and tony crawford tackle the question using one of the worlds best and most. Aug 05, 2010 the dsg always short shifts in d mode for improved efficiency and hardly makes use of the first gear. Strictly speaking, this is an automated manual, but it can shift gears itself or allow manual selection either by moving the lever or using steeringwheelmounted paddles. The r32 is basically the golf to get, we all know that. Although vws dsg dualclutch automated manual is a good, reasonably sporty automatic, it is still an automatic.
Early estimates for 060 mph have placed the gti at around five and a half seconds with the dsg, as we expect the engine to feel underrated like previous generation cars. Maybe the issue is when comparing the dsgstronic to the manual audi s4 or gti or golf r etc, since those vwgroup manuals are all a bit on the clunky side, with long throws. Amazing in that u cannot feel the gear changes up or down only feel it change from 1st to 2nd, amazing that under full throttle accelaration, there is no pause in g force as it changes gear. Volkswagens dsg transmission makes it easy not to miss the. Dsg is just a preferenceoptions and weather its better than manual or. At gti international i went up against a stock manual gti in my stock dsg gti and i won. Dsg is just a preferenceoptions and weather its better than manual or not is relative. A sixspeed dsg meshes everything together and sends power forwards. With firm control, the golf gti can stay level in corners and help maintain grip while managing to provide a smooth ride.
Manual mode on dsg is way more fun and engaging than true manual. Honestly, coming from a dsg owner, id wait until you find a. With precision craftsmanship and a 228hp turbocharged engine, theres no wonder why the 2020 golf gti is referred to as the golf hot hatch. Alright, so back when i was looking around i tried the mk6 and mk7 of both the gti and golf r, with a mix of the dsg and 6mt transmissions. The gti is based on volkswagens popular golf, and the wrx is based on the subaru impreza.
Mar 28, 2006 dsg vs manual is abit like, silver vs black. Buying myself a golf gti mk5 in the next few weeks to commute in and cant decide between a manual or a dsg. Hi, im new here, and i this thread is probably somewhere, but after a bit of searching i couldnt find it, so if someone could point me to it, thatd be great, if it really doesnt exist, well here it is and i am surprised. Feb 26, 2020 a sixspeed dsg meshes everything together and sends power forwards. A switch from a manualor even dsg gti which holds each gear longer and has a lot longer rev range to a dsg tdi will definitely. We go for a drive in the 2019 vw gti rabbit support us on patreon. The 7th generation or mk 7 vw gti is one of the closest matches to the focus sts size, performance, and price. The dsg owner facing potentially high maintenance costs if things go wrong. The volkswagen gti and subaru wrx are two established nameplates in the compact car segment. Honestly, coming from a dsg owner, id wait until you find a clean manual example.
While i think it is certainly a good idea that the 2015 volkswagen golf gti offers an automatic transmission option, there is absolutely. An acquaintance who runs a vw tuning place has strongly recommended a manual over a dsg box, describing the semiauto as a potential box of pain if there are any problems, as opposed to a manual which is easier to maintain and cheaper to repair. The 2019 volkswagen golf gti adds a special rabbit edition for the new model year, as well as a new sevenspeed automatic transmission in place of. In fact, if you were buying a golf r, i would suggest you buy that over the manual. Aug 18, 2017 golf gti vs golf r which looks better. The r32 is basically the golf to get, we all know that, theres no. Nov 22, 2018 with the old polo gti, there were two benefits to a manual gearbox, as the 7speed dsg couldnt handle all the torque of the 1. In conclusion, the dsg transmission makes the gti into the ultimate daily driver. While i think it is certainly a good idea that the 2015 volkswagen golf gti offers an automatic transmission option, there. That being said, i only want a miata even more now. Hi my girlfriend and i have decided to get a car and weve chosen to get a 2015 gti, but were not sure about the transmission. The gti is frontwheeldrive only, and a 6speed manual transmission is standard. Dsg vs manual vw gti mkvi forum vw golf r forum vw. A switch from a manual or even dsg gti which holds each gear longer and has a lot longer rev range to a dsg tdi will definitely feel like the car is not acting fast enough to your reactions.
One of the main reasons i got a dsg box was due to the gear knob, on the manual box, looking as if it was straight out of halfords. This dsg doesnt feel much like a manual when you climb behind the wheel and clock a familiar auto gearstick, complete with p. Jul 02, 2019 comparing the mazda 3 to the vw golf, two small hatchbacks with manual transmissions that compete at the affordable end of the newcar spectrum. Now, though, i reckon buying a manual is like buying a television that has no remote control.
The most formidable is the longrunning volkswagen golf gti. The depreciation cost is calculated using a combination of data sources and assumptions. The gear changing speed in the dsg is quick enough to compensate for the reduced torque. Id like to hear the pros and cons of each transmission from. Dsg or manual, what would you do page 1 general gassing. I am currently driving a gti 5 and s40 t5 and i know what i want except that i am not sure whether dsg or manual. I didnt test drive anything when coming to this, my first, golf but i knew all along that whatever car i got it was going to be automatic after 20 years of driving manual. With the old polo gti, there were two benefits to a manual gearbox, as the 7speed dsg couldnt handle all the torque of the 1. E and dspecific features include chequered upholstery, a sports steering wheel and, ah yes, in the manual gti, a golf ball.
Considering a subaru wrx sti, ford focus rs, honda civic type r, mercedesamg. In a performance car like the gti a manual is a must. I found the dsg to be very technically capable, quick, responsive, etc. Depreciation depreciation is an estimate of the reduction in value incurred by owning and operating a vehicle over a period of time.
The dsg always short shifts in d mode for improved efficiency and hardly makes use of the first gear. Next article great drag race rs 3 vs a45 amg vs civic type r vs golf r vs focus rs. Our two test cars for the day will be a carbon steel grey manual and a tornado red dsg. In this article, well compare the focus st vs gti with the assumption that youre looking at the used market. Both cars are highperformance versions of valueoriented models. Manual transmissions are an absolute joy, but the dsg is capable of much more than you or me. The focus st was refreshed in 2015, the golf gti in 2016. Manual transmissions are an absolute joy, but the dsg is. Dsg vs manual vw gti mkvi forum vw golf r forum vw golf.
Jul 05, 2019 the volkswagen golf gti is one of the most wellrounded sporty cars you can buy today. It can act exactly the way you want it to in any situation and its very smart. I assume this is related to supply and demand, as most people choose auto i think. I was in the same boat a few years ago when buying a mk5 golf gti. Some buyers may appreciate how undertheradar aesthetics can be married to such a rapid mode of family transport, but others may prefer something a bit more extrovert. Oct 09, 2018 the gti is frontwheeldrive only, and a 6speed manual transmission is standard.
Vw golf r dsg v manual video 12 may 2010 they main problem with the manual, in this rather pointless 060 exercise, is that second gear doesnt take you to 60, which is a bit odd. It is a very advanced transmission, with positives and negatives. My primary reason for wanting auto was to make long journeys in heavy traffic more comfortable. Also, my girlfriend sort of knows how to drive manual but not comfortably enough to drive on the roads, so shes not 100% in and obviously cant be that she wants a stick. Have you driven a golf or sportwagen with the dsg yet. The dsg has a different feel then a traditional torque converter style automatic.
If you like keeping a low profile, then both the volkswagen golf gti and golf r are hot hatches that specialise in anonymity. But just as the new seventhgeneration golf exists in many forms, there are many flavors of gti, too, all of which are worth knowing. Ultimately, we wouldnt fault anyone for choosing the dsg over the manual, or vice versa. This dsg doesnt feel much like a manual when you climb behind the wheel and clock a familiar auto gearstick, complete with p, r, n and d markings. Manual v dsg grapschknutsch 14th apr 2018 im very curious, why nobody compares acceleration with a certain rpm limit like staying below 3000 or 4000rpm. I want to buy a dualclutch volkswagen golf, but will its. I am considering purchasing a 2019 gti, most likely the rabbit edition. So, as the title suggests, which one should i go for. I spend most of my commute in traffic on the m25 where an auto would be very nice, but. Jan 12, 2018 4 can generally handle more power than a standards clutch, at least for mk6 gti s 5 paddle shifters im not saying a dsg is better than a manual, as i love my rabbit and miatas manual.
Volkswagens dsg transmission makes it easy not to miss. Ive driven several dsg golfs r32s and a chipped diesel and i think the box is amazing. Aug 28, 2018 the mk7 golf comes with a 6speed automatic instead of a dsg. Volkswagen golf gti dsg v volkswagen golf gti manual61. As fun as it is functional, the gti is the kind of hot hatchback you can wring out on the weekend but happily. Nov 12, 2016 you can have arguably the best golf ever for. Dsg or manual vw golf r mk7 chat vwroc vw r owners club. In fact i go as far as saying more than half the golf r cars local to me in my price range were dsg. New polo gti manual is for purists iol breaking news.